Krauthammer vs. Juan Williams on IRS: "You're Telling Me It Was A Coincidence? Rubbish."


BRET BAIER: When people say this smells fishy, that it looks bad, does it counter directly Democrats who are saying this is all in the minds of Republicans? Doesn't the people -- don't the people at home who say, 'wait, this doesn't make sense to me,' don't they count for something?

CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER: This requires an extremely improbable degree of coincidence. Six computers, hers goes down, nobody can locate it, there's no reporting of it -- all of us know from our own experience that e-mails never die. All of a sudden these have died. Precisely, you say there were tons of emails that were released. Yes, but these are the ones precisely that would connect the IRS with other agencies.

JUAN WILLIAMS: You don't know that.

KRAUTHAMMER: No, but that's how they were tagged.

WILLIAMS: Oh, Charles.

KRAUTHAMMER: These were the ones that they were looking for, the ones that went outside the IRS and that's exactly what they're looking for. You talk about the IRS in a bone-headed way, sort of not getting right the investigation of whether --


KRAUTHAMMER: -- whether the groups went over the line of the 501(c)4. No. This is a deliberate attempt by the administration to sideline these politically conservative groups in the days leading up --

WILLIAMS: As the president said, you don't have an iota of proof. Partisan Republicans held hearings, nothing.

BAIER: Any agency --

WILLIAMS: The I.G. has said, yes, it was politically motivated but no outside influence and no evidence of corruption.

BAIER: And when the national archivist said any agency is required to notify us when they realize they have a problem, when they realize they've lost e-mails and against the federal record --

WILLIAMS: That's not what we're here talking about. We're talking about if the IRS is being used to punish political enemies.

GEORGE WILL: There would have been no evidence of Richard Nixon's involvement in obstruction of justice if his tapes had suffered the same fate that Lois Lerner's hard drive has suffered.

KRAUTHAMMER: Look, the fact that they targeted the tea party is evidence, irrefutable evidence, they were going after certain political groups, all of the same ideology, and you're telling me it was a coincidence. Rubbish.

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