JOE SCARBOROUGH: Let's talk about yesterday. Lois Lerner. Let's stop talking about Benghazi. I think you'd agree with me that we should move on. The House voted yesterday, The New York Times' Jeremy Peters is reporting, to find Lois Lerner in contempt. What's your take on that? You compared it to McCarthyism.
REP. ELIJAH CUMMINGS (D-MD): Oh, I'm sorry. I thought I was talking to somebody else.
SCARBOROUGH: If I have you here, why would I want to talk to anybody else, Elijah?
REP. CUMMINGS: I thought you were talking to Jeremy. Let me say this. Again, this is the first time since the 1950s and '60s that a committee has stripped somebody of their Fifth Amendment right and then at the same time went on to a criminal contempt citation. And this is unprecedented except in the McCarthy era, and even in that era it failed. So, you know, I wonder where we're going here, Joe. It seems as if there has been an effort to -- again, my argument was not that I don't want to hear what Miss Lerner had to say. I really do want to hear it. But you know what? There's something that is more significant than that. And that is upholding the constitutional rights of every single American.