L.Z. GRANDERSON: Well, what I'm saying is that she is pretending as if once an era has happened, it's forever going to trail a president. And that just isn't true. She is living proof of that with scrubbing clean President Reagan's reputation.
Now with President Obama, it is true. He should have been more forthright with how the Affordable Care was going to impact the country. But with that being said, all Americans know politicians lie. The question is, which lies can you live with? And, time and time again, Americans have said we can deal with the lies that President Obama tells us because we believe in his heart, he has the best interest for the American people. Every president is going it lie to you. Every politician is going to lie to you. The question is, which lies can you live with?
FERGUSON: L.Z., I think that's really sad that we're sitting here having this debate. And you're -- at least you are willing to admit that the president lied to the American people. The problem is he lied to the American people --
GRANDERSON: Every president does.