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Rick Perry On The Tea Party: "If You Can't Win Elections, You Can't Govern"

JEFF ZELENY, ABC NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Well, governor, thank you very much for joining us.

I want to show you a copy of this week's Time magazine. Chris Christie had a big win in a blue state. Was his win impressive?

GOV. RICK PERRY: Yes. Absolutely it was an impressive victory.

ZELENY: Is Chris Christie a true conservative governor?

PERRY: He was a successful governor in New Jersey. Now does that transcend to the country? We'll see in later years and months to come.

ZELENY: Is that code for he's a moderate?

PERRY: No. It's code for the truth of the matter is -- listen, we're all different states. Is a conservative in New Jersey a conservative in the rest of the country?

ZELENY: It sounds like you're skeptical that it may not be.

PERRY: I'm just saying that we'll have that discussion at the appropriate time.

ZELENY: OK. So many divisions inside the Republican Party. Is it time, do you think, for the Tea Party wing to be more pragmatic in elections going forward in 2014?

PERRY: If you can't win elections, you can't govern. The idea that we didn't win in '08 and '12, we're paying a huge price in this country.

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