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Robert Zimmerman Jr. Speaks With Piers Morgan After Verdict

PIERS MORGAN: What will he do?

I mean, he's a free man. He's come out tonight into a world where many people despise him. You know that. They'll continue to, because of this result. It's incredibly polarizing case.

Does he fear for his safety? Does he have concerns about the quality of a life for the rest of his life?

ROBERT ZIMMERMAN JR.: He has always feared for his safety. We have always feared for his safety and our safety as a family.

Clearly, you know, he's a free man in the eyes of the court but he's going to be looking around his shoulder for the rest of his life. There are factions, there are groups, there are people that would want to take the law into their own hands as they perceived it or, you know, be vigilantes in some sense that they think that justice was not served, they won't respect a verdict no matter how it was reached and they will always present a threat to George and to his family.


MORGAN: Many people have reacted with fury tonight. Many people have acted thinking this is the right decision but many have said it's atrocity. It's an outrage. Nobody has been made accountable for the death of Trayvon Martin.

What do you say to those people?

ZIMMERMAN: You know, I think of that we don't make people accountable for death you know as it were because there is a death. Death is unfortunate. Death is a byproduct of as the law ascribes, you know, returning force with appropriate force. The injury found that he acted appropriately in defending his life in accordance with the law.

I would say to them that we're a country of laws. We respect the rule of law. And that respecting this verdict, as we called for before the verdict was in, is the only appropriate thing to do as Americans.

This is our system. This is what we have. It's the best in the world.

And I think that conjecture and speculation and emotional reaction to what people think may or may not have happened has been dominating the conversation for a long time now.

But you know, people called for an arrest. They called for his day in court. They have had their arrest. They have had their day in court.

They have seen blood. They have seen what Trayvon Martin did to my brother and it's time -- it's high time that they accept that the jury system that we have in this country is a system that we should respect.

MORGAN: But they've also seen, of course, what your brother did to Trayvon Martin and many people feel, why did your brother pursue him? Why did he get out of the vehicle and pursue him? Why did he carry a gun? Why is he not in himself feeling any sense of responsibility for what happened because --

ZIMMERMAN: Well, that's --

MORGAN: -- without those two things --


MORGAN: -- Trayvon Martin would probably still be alive.

ZIMMERMAN: I don't think it's true that he doesn't feel responsibility. George was completely sorrowful after this happened. And just because he's calm or because he's not over the top, you know, emotional doesn't mean he doesn't feel terribly about it as we saw in court when he asked Doris Singleton, are you Catholic, yes, because it's in my religion bad no matter what when someone losses his life -- abortion, self defense, what have you.

I would tell those people they are -- again, from my previous answer -- they're not paying attention to facts. You said "pursued" which is a key word which comes from Benjamin Crump. He admitted to following. That came out in court.

The state of Florida never proved that he continued to follow. So any reference to George following Trayvon Martin, catching up to confronting him is simply conjecture to formatted narratives.

MORGAN: But the truth, though, is we don't know.

ZIMMERMAN: No, we do know.


MORGAN: There are too many unanswered questions. You know what your brother told you.

ZIMMERMAN: No, no, no. In this country, we know when there's a verdict. In your country, we may not know and we may be subject to continual speculation until the end of time. MORGAN: No, no, I totally respect the judicial system and I respect the verdict of any jury under that. I think that's the only way you can respond to these things.

But you know my view about this from the start. About I do respect the jury here.

Let me just ask you this I guess. If the situation was reversed, if you were the brother of Trayvon Martin and or, say, you were the brother of George Zimmerman and he'd been killed by Trayvon Martin and the same situation reversed, Trayvon got out of a vehicle, had a gun, a neighborhood patrolman and had got involved in some altercation, pulled the gun out and had killed your brother dead.

ZIMMERMAN: What the jury found is --

MORGAN: How would -- how would you feel on a human level and an emotional level about that?

ZIMMERMAN: Well, two things obviously. That is tragic. You know, but if Trayvon were my brother and he was legally armed and, you know, able to carry that firearm in a legal way, and my brother blindsided him by breaking his nose and pummeling his head into concrete and continuing to punch him, I would find and the jury has found that unfortunately he had the greater hand in his own demise, which was causing by his own hand his death. That's unfortunate but that's the reality.

MORGAN: Do you really believe that?

ZIMMERMAN: That's what the jury believes. It doesn't matter what I believe.

MORGAN: Do you believe that?

ZIMMERMAN: Absolutely I do believe that. I know --

MORGAN: You believe that Trayvon caused his own death, 17-year-old boy just armed with a bag of Skittles?

ZIMMERMAN: Look, we can be cynical about it until the end of time.

MORGAN: I'll just ask you what your personal view is.

ZIMMERMAN: And I've been very clear what my personal view is, and I think so has the jury. The jury has spoken and they've been very clear.

Self-defense means you were defending your life from a real perceived threat. Whether or not you were injured to the degree that some would have you be injured to in order shoot someone or not, you actually perceived an imminent threat of grave bodily harm or death.

That is what the circumstances were that surrounded George in the moment he fired his pistol. That's the law in this country. The jury's been very clear. They agree with George. It is unfortunate that someone lost their life.

But having said that, you asked me if the role were reversed.


ZIMMERMAN: I don't begrudge anyone for trying to get answers as to why their son died. I just -- what I do take issue with is when those answers are not immediately forthcoming, throwing the race card on the table and accusing everyone from George, the Sanford Police Department, the chief of police, Bill Lee, the state attorney's office in the 18th Circuit, everyone in between of being racists or sweeping a murder under the rug for --

MORGAN: Well, Mark O'Mara tonight said that if George Zimmerman had been black, he never would have been charged with any offense.

ZIMMERMAN: Perhaps not because that happens in Chicago every day. You know, there are many people who go out and shoot other people who are black and shoot other people who are black, and they are not charged for whatever reason.

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