Megyn Kelly vs. Dem Congressman Who Blamed IRS Victims Now Suggests They Were Lying


Megyn Kelly takes on Rep. Jim McDermott (D-Wash.) for challenging the motives of those organizations who were targeted by the IRS

"If you didn't come in and ask for this tax break, you wouldn't had a question asked of you," McDermott said at yesterday's Congressional hearing that featured the testimony of those who fell victim to the IRS' abusive questionnaire. Below is a transcripto

MEGYN KELLY, FOX NEWS: But you know that many, many conservative groups -- hundreds of them were kept waiting for no answers for months and months and actually years at a time?

REP. MCDERMOTT (D-Wash.): They were never denied their exemption.

KELLY: But why does that -- who cares? Who cares? If you're stuck for three years with no answer, isn't that the same as an effective denial?

REP. MCDERMOTT: They can still operate. They can still collect money, they can still put out advertisements, they can use their first amendment rights, nobody at the IRS stopped them from doing that.

MEGYN KELLY: But Congressman McDermott, that ignores the reality of the testimony you heard. Jim Kookogey, we talked about how they lost a $30,000 donation, because a lot of people don’t want to donate to groups who haven’t received that official stamp of approval in becomes a 501(c)4.

REP. MCDERMOTT: That was not under testimony under oath. I don’t know if—

MEGYN KELLY: Do you reject it? That he was lying? Is that your answer to that? Anybody who complains that they lost donations are misleading?

REP. MCDERMOTT: He didn’t offer any proof. No, no, no. You are putting words in my mouth. Stop that.

MEGYN KELLY: I’m asking you whether you are rejecting that testimonial as not true.

REP. MCDERMOTT: I am saying, people can say anything, and they do say in testimony before committees. The fact is, that we don’t know that to be true. If he would bring some evidence and show it to us, we would be glad to see that. If somebody said: I offered you $30,000, and because you don’t have a tax exemption I’m not going to give it to you. If he had a letter or something like that, then we would have something to talk about.

But when you're just listening to people who tell you stuff -- people tell us, in the Congress, things all the time. And the IRS hears people say [things] all the time, and they ask more questions and for documentation. That's the nature. This is not an honor system forgiving tax exemptions.

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