THOMAS ROBERTS, MSNBC: Sir, you keep talking about revenue and infrastructure and the fact that we have the capabilities necessary to respond to something as atrocious as this. Do you feel like you're capitalizing and making political hay of this event that happened?
BARNEY FRANK: That I'm capitalizing?
ROBERTS: Well, that you're making a political argument about revenue right now.
FRANK: Yes, exactly. I'm talking common sense. I'm saying that if the sequester had gone through... Last time we had not had enough money, we couldn't be able to do this. Yeah, I'm making an argument about reality. And I think that's the only sensible response. We are spending a great deal of public money here. I'm glad that we are. And yes, I do want maybe for this to have some people be less enthusiastic of reducing the ability to respond to a crisis like this. If you're asking me am i trying to make an argument to affect how people make decisions about public policy? Absolutely. I think this is an important teaching moment about what we need if we're going to live the way we want to live.