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Fireworks: Piers Morgan Battles Gun Advocate Again

PIERS MORGAN: Wait one second. Let's wait (ph) about what these do. A surgeon who carried out these operations -- these bullets enter from these semiautomatic weapons and they explode inside the bone. They shatter the bone, the tissue. They lead to multiple amputations, if you're lucky enough to survive. He said they are weapons of mass slaughter. He has no comprehension what they're doing on the streets of his country.

Now, you can see, this is an astonishing picture. This is a car outside Sandy Hook school. That is a bullet hole from a ricochet bullet fired from inside the school. Look at the power. Look at the impact. Imagine what that was doing to a little child of 6 or 7.

Now, John Lott, your answer is more guns makes America safe, even though you look at the statistics, you have 300 million in circulation and you have the worst gun murder rate of any of the wealthy countries of the world by a massive multiple.

How do you justify the claim more guns makes more safe people in America? I don't -- don't get it.

JOHN R. LOTT, JR., AUTHOR, "MORE GUNS, LESS CRIME": Every place that guns have been banned, murder rates have gone up. You cannot point to one place, whether it's Chicago or whether it's D.C. or whether it's been England of whether it's been Jamaica or Ireland...

PIERS MORGAN: I'm sorry, but that's just a complete lie. It's a complete lie. The gun murder rate in Britain is 35 a year, average. You need to stop repeating a blatant lie, about what happens in other countries.

[cross talk]

No, you're not going to get away with this. You lied about it the other day. Thirty-five gun murders a year in Britain, eleven to twelve thousand in America. Stop lying, because what you say drives Americans to defend themselves.

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