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Analysis With Frank Luntz

Sean Hannity

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HANNITY: Now, the 2012 rumor mill is churning in full force. As more and more potential GOP contenders make stops in key primary states all around the country. And one of the most critical primary state in any election, of course is Iowa. And tonight, that is exactly where Frank Luntz is standing by with our very first 2012 Republican focus group. Frank, what a good looking group of people.FRANK LUNTZ, GOP POLLSTER: He just called you a good looking group of people. Sean, clearly you can't see through that camera lens.

HANNITY: Oh, take that back Mr. Luntz.

LUNTZ: Before we get to -- that's doctor to you, Sean. Before we get to 2012, let's focus on what we are doing right now. What President Obama said to Bill O'Reilly's interview. We had an opportunity to take them if you hand me one this. We used our instant response dials and we had them react to Bill O'Reilly's question about the Muslim brotherhood. Sean, watch how that lines, the dials dive when Barack Obama responds to Bill O'Reilly's question. Let's take a look.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) OBAMA: They are well-organized. And there are strains of their ideology that are anti-U.S., there's no doubt about it. But here's the thing that we have to understand, there are a whole bunch of secular folks in Egypt. There are a whole bunch of educators and civil society in Egypt that wants to come to the fore as well. And so, it's important for us not to say that our own only two options are either the Muslim Brotherhood or a suppressed people.

O'REILLY: But you don't want the Muslim Brotherhood.

OBAMA: What I want is a representative government in Egypt.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

LUNTZ: Now, remember, these are republican caucus voters. So, they are expected to be skeptical of what the president says. But the reaction was so negative, so overwhelming. What is the problem?

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: I don't think he has a grasp on how serious this could be. He doesn't seem to know what the details are and what we want and what we need as a country.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: He talks about making them into a republic. All he talks about is democracy. He doesn't know what a republic is.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: There's no coherent policy. I mean, you've got four people talking about four different things, they've disavowed the former ambassador now. No one seems to know what is going on.

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: I believe the Barack Obama's religious beliefs do govern his foreign policy.

LUNTZ: And what are his religious beliefs?

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: I believe he is a Muslim.

LUNTZ: You do?

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: Yes.

LUNTZ: How many of you believe that here? Wow! You believe he's a Muslim?

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: Yes.

LUNTZ: And you think that's has an impacts on what he says and does?

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: Fundamentally, yes.

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: Absolutely.

LUNTZ: Jack?

JACK: Yes. I do also.

LUNTZ: Now, do you understand the implications of what you are saying here? What the media is going to say about this group and about Iowa caucus voters in the future? You realize what are opening up here?

(CROSSTALK)

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: I think his religious belief is liberalism. He believes in his political policies more than anything.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: I think he's Muslim sympathetic. I don't know if he's a practicing Muslim.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: His religious belief is liberalism and, you know, that's the most intolerant religion of all. There's no room for wiggle in there.

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: I do think it's quite possible he is Muslim, even though he says he is Christian. But I think that this type of rhetoric, he's waffling on both sides.

LUNTZ: But let's focus on his presidential -- on how he communicates when it comes to foreign policy and his policies. Shouldn't we be backing the president? Isn't that the loyal thing to do?

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: He is Neville Chamberlain in 1939. He's an appeaser and he will lead us down the path to distraction if we're not careful.

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: He gives textbook answers.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: I think this crisis can snuck up on him, and he's a little unprepared to respond to it.

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: He doesn't know what to do. He never knows what to do.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: I think he believes that America is at fault for the world's problems. I think the -- he doesn't see the good that America does in the world.

LUNTZ: OK. Let me hold your points there. Sean, I want to emphasize that these are republican caucus voters in Iowa.

HANNITY: Right. UNIDENTIFIED MAN: But nevertheless, Barack Obama has talked about moving to the center. Clearly he's not connecting.

HANNITY: I want to get to that in a second here. But I want to go back to this issue. I think, look, he was in Reverend Wright's church which believes in black liberation theology predicated on a very leftist, socialist, redistributive model. And I don't question that aspect of President Obama in terms of he believes in Christian faith, although I believe a radical one hanging out with Wright. The question is here, Frank, I think the Muslim outreach, I think A, was not successful. More importantly, you know, how shocked were everybody, the Muslim brotherhood believes in an Islamic caliphate wanting Sharia Law. He had an opportunity yesterday to say, no Muslim brotherhood. But the Washington Post is reporting that they are making renewed outreach and revisiting their opinions with the Muslim brotherhood, that is the issue.

LUNTZ: OK. So, let's as here. How many of you think that he should not -- that he should state clearly, knowing the implications in Egypt, there should be no outreach to the Muslim brotherhood, who agrees with that? All of you. Then what is the solution? What do you do?

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: I would just like to see him be proud of America. Represent America. Our history.

LUNTZ: You guys agree with that?

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: I just want him to be proud of who we are and have the ability to point out all the positives this country's representatives.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: What do we have to be sorry about? Remember, he runs around apologizing, apologizing for things. What we do wrong? We prosper as a nation, we pay for things and we give relief to other countries.

LUNTZ: We'll going to be going back, we'll going to talk a lot more about Barack Obama in a moment. Sean, this is a very intense, very passionate group. A very skeptical group of the president, and very demanding of change in 2012.

HANNITY: All right. Frank, I want to ask them when we get back, I want to know who they are leaning towards because obviously, the Iowa caucuses are pivotal for the republican 2012 candidates. We'll have much more with Frank Luntz and his focus group in Iowa coming up, plus this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WIIG: I looked at him when he was completely covered, and literally completely covered head-to-toe in blood. And I knew that I probably looked exactly the same.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HANNITY: FOX News reporter Greg Palkot and cameraman Olaf Wiig in their own words. How they survived their brutal physical attack on the streets of Cairo. We'll talk about their hospitalization and their unbelievable story. And much more coming up, straight ahead. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

HANNITY: And welcome back to HANNITY. And still with us tonight in the key primary state called the state of Iowa is Frank Luntz and his focus group of republican voters. And Frank, I'm dying to know who they would like to see run and who they are favoring at this moment?

LUNTZ: OK, so let's do it. I want to hear by voice, who is your candidate for 2012?

(FOCUS GROUP) Huckabee!

LUNTZ: Well, I didn't hear you. (FOCUS GROUP) Huckabee! LUNTZ: Shawn (ph), that's the problem. There is no one candidates. So, what are you looking for in a matter of attributes, in a matter of principles? Tell me, Shawn (ph).

SHAWN: I would like an uncompromising peacemaker. A statesman. Uncompromising in core values. You don't give up your values. But he can make peace with both sides and he's a statesman. He understands what we want as American people.

LUNTZ: Chris, you're going to cast your first caucus vote, what are you looking for?

CHRIS: For someone with a strong foundation. Mike Huckabee has displayed that, he's a good foundation to make decisions on.

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: I think the Republican Party will do well with a fresh face like Chris Christie. Somebody that comes in with specific ideas to solve specific problems.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: I think the last election showed us that Americans are looking for a non-establishment outside of Washington, new face candidate.

LUNTZ: So, not a senator or congressman?

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: I don't think so.

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: That's what I was going to say, someone who is not any establishment but someone who understands America and loves America. And I don't think we have a president that actually loves America right now.

LUNTZ: Let's focus on the Republicans.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: I'm looking for a patriot. And I want him to have a Constitution in his pocket, a Bible in one hand and a bottle of Maalox in the other.

(LAUGHTER) Because he did some arguments. He's going to have to deal with governments, he's going to have to find a way to do it. I don't care if he has a big waistline or a furrowed brow, I want somebody to, you know, roll up his sleeves and go to work. LUNTZ: OK, dude, I do the jokes here. (LAUGHTER) UNIDENTIFIED MAN: I want someone back to Reagan. He took and he stood up to the Russians. He didn't apologize for anything.

(CROSSTALK)

LUNTZ: Who is that person? UNIDENTIFIED MAN: I'd say the Newt Gingrich or Chris Christie. Because Chris Christie is taking on the unions.

LUNTZ: Sean, I want you to know the votes of the people here when they walk in here become more Mike Huckabee people in this group than anybody else. Mitt Romney, a close second.

HANNITY: Yes. It's interesting because right now, the latest poll showed, great poll that he published, had in Iowa, Huckabee winning or Romney winning in New Hampshire and Newt Gingrich is winning in South Carolina. Can we run through a list of, you know, the top candidates that we know? And Chris Christie for example has told me in multiple interviews, I'm not running, I'm not running, I'm not running. So, you know, it looks like he's -- maybe we can run through Mitt Romney and Pawlenty and New Gingrich and Huckabee and all the other -- Governor Palin and see where they stand.

LUNTZ: I guess you've just blown out the entire show with that list right there. First thing, Chris Christie, should he be running for office, yes or no?

(FOCUS GROUP) Yes.

LUNTZ: Why should he? UNIDENTIFIED MAN: Because he's the only person that is going to stand up against whatever special interests is out there.

LUNTZ: Should he be running?

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: Yes, obviously. He is somebody that when he was running, now he's doing what he said he was going to do when he ran. That's very rare.

LUNTZ: Do you want him?

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: Yes. We need a fiscal conservative in 2012, he's going to be about the budget and finance and finance, and he's got a proven track regard already in that area.

LUNTZ: OK. Let's do Mitt Romney. Mitt Romney did not do well in Iowa, he did much better in New Hampshire and other states. Mitt Romney in 2012, is he the type of person you would be looking for?

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: That's right. He's exactly the person I want to win. He's got the experience. And I think that is sorely needed.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: He had his own business and he had a very successful note. So, he knows a lot about the economy and how to make it run and what to do.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: One more Mitt Romney?

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: I just think he's a little too slick. I don't think that people take him seriously.

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: Right.

LUNTZ: What about Sarah Palin?

(FOCUS GROUP) Yes!

LUNTZ: Who would like to see Sarah Palin run? Raise your hands. Who doesn't want her to run? Raise your hands. So, it's overwhelming, you want her as a candidate. Anything about Sarah Palin that stands out to you, Eric?

ERIC: Actually, just a true conservative. And I believe her values are unwavering, it's what we are looking for in any candidate.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: I believe she would stand up for free enterprise. I believe small business, the providers of society.

LUNTZ: One more.

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: The only deficit I believe she has is that she can be polarizing because she is so tenacious and that is going to be the greatest obstacle for her to overcome.

LUNTZ: Newt Gingrich, should he run?

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: He's a constitutional base person, he understands small government.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: He understands. LUNTZ: Gingrich?

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: Absolutely. If you follow this guy, he's out looking for solutions that are outside of government. And that's what we need.

LUNTZ: Now, Sean. We tested a whole bunch of video that you're going to be seeing over the coming weeks and months. And I want to give Newt Gingrich credit because he talked about the debt commission and he said that the commission was the wrong commission on the wrong topic. They should have been talking about jobs, jobs, jobs, no taxes, less spending. Gingrich tested better than any -- how many of you thought Gingrich, regards of who you support, tested the best of all the people you've seeing? Gingrich was our winner tonight. And remember this was a Huckabee, Romney crowd behind me.

HANNITY: All right. What's interesting, we'll going to show more this on the program later this week. Frank Luntz, tell everybody the best looking crowd we've ever had. Thank them all very much, and thank you.

And coming up, why the Muslim brotherhood's heightened involvement in Egypt might mean disaster for the western world, plus.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PALKOT: We were blindfolded at that point, before we entered, blind folded.

WIIG: You are hearing rattling of guns and people moving stuff around. And, you know, and you can't help but sort of think, what are they doing?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HANNITY: How the Fox News team that was brutal beaten and held captive in Egypt made it out alive. They tell their story, coming up next.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

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