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Huckabee & Ferraro on "Hannity & Colmes"

Huckabee & Ferraro on "Hannity & Colmes"

Hannity & Colmes - September 5, 2008

HANNITY: Joining us now, FOX News contributor, former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee. Governor, great to see you. I only saw you 10 minutes ago. Great to have you back with us. Thanks for being on the program.

MIKE HUCKABEE, FORMER ARKANSAS GOVERNOR: It's great to be back with you and I enjoyed being here in Atlanta. You know, I think what happened with Sarah Palin's announcement, it's a game changer. It really took everybody, both Democrats and Republicans, completely by surprise, rocked everybody back on their heels. And now there is excitement in the Republican Party that simply did not exist eight days ago. You felt it in St. Paul. You can feel it out there in the country. I sensed it tonight when we were at that rally here in Atlanta.

HANNITY: And I'm telling you, the support for her, it's almost like they have created a backlash. It exists, there were thousands of people there tonight. And we see, for example, we're reading on CBS and some of these other news sites, what they are calling Sarah Palin-mania. And that is women that wear glasses want glasses. They want pictures of her. They want to wear the clothes she is wearing. What do you make of that?

HUCKABEE: Let me just make clear, I don't want to wear the clothes she is wearing. Let's make sure we're clear on that.

HANNITY: Women.

HUCKABEE: I tell you what -- but I will tell you what's happening. Sarah Palin, for those of you who live out here in what I call middle America and small towns, who grew up that way, she is us. We relate to her. We understand what it's like to go to the PTA or to be in the aisle of the shopping mall with coupons that we have clipped. And I think that she is just giving everybody out here in the real world a sense of hey, it would be really nice to have somebody in the White House who understands life in the real world.

HANNITY: Governor, I've got to tell you, I think this choice by Senator McCain was a huge home run. I know the conservatives like myself were energized by it. She is a reform governor. She has a tremendous resume, especially when you get into the details of it.

Let's go through some of the specific attacks that have come out. It's one week ago today that we found out she was going to be the vice presidential choice. Since then, we know that, for example, the Philly mayor today referred to her as being repulsive. Harry Reid after a speech referred to that as being shrill. They have talked about a DNA test. They have asked questions about her fidelity in her marriage. They have asked horrible questions about her 17-year-old daughter. They have asked harder questions about her in one week and her 17-year-old daughter, the left-wing radical media in this country than they did Barack Obama's association with Bill Ayers in 19 months. What are we to make of that attempt to destroy her?

HUCKABEE: I have never seen such a display of sexism as has been thrust upon Sarah Palin. But you know what's happening? This is a great sort of living example of the biblical story in Genesis chapter 50 when Joseph's brothers threw him in the well and Joseph later said "what you intended for my harm has turned out for my good."

And I don't think some of the folks who are throwing these attacks, whether it's the media or Harry Reid, I just don't think they get it. The more they pile on her, the more they try to smear her with these ridiculous, unfair, unprecedented attacks, the more that many of us out here in the heart of America are just going to rally behind her, stand with her, pray for her.

You know, I said tonight, I want to mention it, Oprah said when she was at the speech at Barack Obama's in Denver, that it made her cry her eyelashes off. This is the lady, Sarah Palin, that ought to be making Oprah cry. This is the lady who has raised five kids, who has a child with special needs, who worked her way up from the PTA to govern a state and now is on the stage as most likely the next vice president, the first woman in history to do that. Oprah ought to be crying, but not because she is sad, but because she is happy for Sarah Palin.

COLMES: I'm happy there is a woman on the ticket. It's Alan. I think if we break a glass ceiling no matter which party gets elected here. But the issue is the issues. And on the issues, of course Oprah doesn't agree with her. And many women who would have been Hillary supporters don't. I want to ask you about something. You said in your speech which was well received. I was off to the side, we were doing HANNITY & COLMES, you were speaking behind us at the RNC the other night.

You said she got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla than Joe Biden got in his run for president. You were talking metaphorically. You didn't mean that literally, did you?

HUCKABEE: Well, of course it's metaphorically. The point is a lot of attacks about her being a small town mayor. I think that's a great platform to go on to be a governor and then go to the next level, the national level. And my point was that Joe Biden wanted to be president, he worked real hard at it. He tried to tell everybody that Barack Obama was unfit and unprepared to be president, and he didn't get very far. He never made it out of Iowa. My point was that Sarah Palin has gotten further in her career seeking an office of national stature than Joe Biden did.

COLMES: Further in her career? I don't know what you mean about how she got further in her career. They are very different career tracks.

HUCKABEE: She is the governor of a state. You and I have a different understanding. I think governor is the ultimate step before one takes a position as president or vice president because you are actually running something. As a senator.

COLMES: Does that mean John McCain is not the best choice because he wasn't a governor?

HUCKABEE: No, I think he's a great choice baecuse he's been a senator, as both of the Democrats have been. But he has run something. He has run a squadron in the United States Navy. He has also commanded people in life and death situations and that's executive experience.

COLMES: Is that the same thing as being a governor?

HUCKABEE: Nothing is as good as that, Alan, except being a talk show host.

COLMES: All right Governor, thank you very much for being with us. See, governor, that's his title. Coming up, are the attacks on Sarah Palin fair? We're going to ask former vice presidential candidate Geraldine Ferraro. Still to come, "View" co-host Elisabeth Hasselbeck made a brief stop at the RNC and gave Sean the lowdown on her view. Find out why Elisabeth thinks Sarah Palin is more than ready to be V.P.

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COLMES: John McCain's selection of Sarah Palin as his running mate has generated a considerable amount of excitement, but the criticism has also been rampant. Attacks on the Obama campaign, the national media on a dally basis targeting everything from her pregnant teen daughter to questions about her experience. With us now for reaction is the only other woman to be nominated on a major party's presidential ticket, former V.P. nominee Geraldine Ferraro. Good to see you once again.

GERALDINE FERRARO, FORMER VICE PRESIDENTAIL CANDIDATE: Good seeing you, Alan.

COLMES: Let's be clear. You are going to vote for Obama-Biden, is that correct?

FERRARO: Yes, I have to say his choosing of Senator Biden really answered the question for me as to whether or not they as a team could handle the foreign policy issues that are facing this country. And I really felt that Joe Biden was the person who would be able to give him the 30 years of experience he has had on the Hill.

COLMES: There's a question, you were here a couple of nights saying I'm not so sure.

FERRARO: Well, and that was the issue. I was not sure if he understood the foreign policy issues, if he was able to handle them. As I said at that time, my country was more important to me than my party. That's why I was looking for a person who could understand the issues and lead us in the international arena. I think Joe Biden adds that strength.

COLMES: The choice of Sarah Palin, was that somebody who was a good political move?

FERRARO: Absolutely.

COLMES: Very good political move, but should it be about that or about someone who can truly govern? And did he fall down on the governing side of that decision?

FERRARO: I evidently believe that he understands, both Senator McCain and Governor Palin, that they believe they can govern. So it's up to the media to look at her experience and do whatever they have to do in order to bring -- and the Obama campaign to convince the voters that they can't.

But in my view, you know, I'm not going to make a judgment on whether or not she can. I was making a judgment on who I thought was the better candidate based upon policy issues and what I thought the team would be able to do.

COLMES: Part of the thinking was besides the fact she is a woman, she is clearly very conservative and helps with the conservative base, but the idea that women who would support Hillary Clinton would vote for someone with a totally different world view than Hillary Clinton is kind of cynical, isn't it?

FERRARO: Well, it's cynical in one way but the problem with all the things, those of us who supported Hillary Clinton -- and I chose her as a candidate and I've said this forever, how long this campaign has gone on. It's kind of like forever.

When I sat down and tried to figure out who I was going to choose as the candidate that I would support who I wanted to be the next president of the United States, I looked at four people in the Democratic primary. I used to joke around saying we have an embarrassment of riches and the Republicans have an embarrassment.

I looked at Joe Biden, I looked at Chris Dodd, I looked at Bill Richardson, I looked at Hillary Clinton. All of whom I knew, all of whom I had seen had experience to run the government. I didn't look at anybody else on the Democratic side.

HANNITY: Hey, Geraldine.

FERRARO: But I chose her because she had all the same experience but in addition to that yes, she was a woman and she was a United States senator.

HANNITY: Geraldine.

FERRARO: Yes Sean, I'm in your seat.

HANNITY: That's all right. Keep it warm, ready for me when I get back.

FERRARO: I think they're thinking I'm getting so conservative that they put me here in your place.

HANNITY: I don't know if that's exactly happening. Let me ask you a serious question here because do you agree with me there has been an effort to smear, attack, besmirch and destroy Sarah Palin? Are you concerned about that at all?

FERRARO: Well, there have been efforts already by the media. I was listening to a Sally Quinn interview tonight, where she was going into whether or not somebody with a Down Syndrome child should be able to have a job.

Ask that of any other working woman in this country who is a wife and mother and say, you know, figure out how to deal with both family and work and the way they do it is with really adequate health care, really terrific childcare. I did it, too. And we're all good mothers and we have all done the job we have to do.

HANNITY: But Joe Biden was praised the week before after the tragic death of his wife that he would take the Amtrak train home every night. Everybody has been making those type of charges and the others.

Now I want to ask you on the experience side. I have in front of me a "New York Times" editorial. When you were chosen by Walter Mondale, you were a three-term congresswoman from Queens, New York. This is what "The New York Times" said in an editorial supporting you. It said "where is it written that only senators are qualified to become president, or where is it written that mere representatives aren't qualified like Geraldine Ferraro of Queens? Where is it written that governors and mayors like Dianne Feinstein of San Francisco are too local or provincial." Then it goes on and says "what a splendid system we say to ourselves that takes little-known men, tests them in high office, permits them to become like statesmen. Why shouldn't a little-known woman have the same opportunity to grow?"

You were only a three-term congresswoman. You were one of 435 members. So all this talk about experience, isn't that unfair based on your own experience?

FERRARO: Well, yes, I don't want to come out and argue my experience in 1984, but if you recall correctly -- you were very young then, Sean. But if you recall in 1984 -

HANNITY: Not that young.

FERRARO: One of the people who started promoting my candidacy very, very early on was Tip O'Neill who is speaker of the House. Let me finish.

HANNITY: You were only one of 435 people. She is a governor.

FERRARO: And to be quite frank, what I had said at the time, I would not have been chosen. But if you take a look at my qualifications, Tip O'Neill knew about my experience in Central America, my experience in the Middle East and all the rest.

HANNITY: I don't want to argue that, but she is experienced enough to be vice president based on "The New York Times."

FERRARO: That's for the voters to decide.

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