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Interview with Presidential Candidate Rick Santorum

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The following is a rush transcript of the April 1, 2012 edition of "Fox News Sunday With Chris Wallace." This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

CHRIS WALLACE, HOST: I'm Chris Wallace.

With Republican leaders uniting behind Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum fights for his political life.

We'll talk with the candidate about his chances in Tuesday's important primaries and growing pressure on him to drop out. Presidential candidate Rick Santorum, live, only on "Fox News Sunday."

Then, a preview of what an Obama/Romney campaign might sound like. Two party leaders debate the issues in the election, from health care to rising gas prices. Former Republican chair and governor, Haley Barbour, and former Democratic Party chair and governor, Howard Dean.

Plus, the Trayvon Martin case and racism in America. We'll ask our Sunday panel if there's been a rush to judgment.

And our Power Player of the Week -- saving lives in and out of the operating room.

All right now on "Fox News Sunday."

(MUSIC)

WALLACE: And hello again from Fox News in Washington.

Well, after a week off, Republican voters return to the polls Tuesday for three more primaries. Joining us from Brookville, Wisconsin, is the candidate who needs to persuade voters and GOP leaders this race is not over yet, Senator Rick Santorum.

Welcome back to "Fox News Sunday."

RICK SANTORUM, REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Well, thank you, Chris. Good to be with you this morning.

WALLACE: This week, I don't have to tell you -- two of the conservative young guns in the party, Paul Ryan and Marco Rubio, endorsed Mitt Romney and suggested that you and the others should get out of the race.

Take a look at what they had to say.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS)

REP. PAUL RYAN, CHAIRMAN, BUDGET COMMITTEE: I think it's important that we just coalesce as conservatives and focus on defeating the president in the fall.

SEN. MARCO RUBIO, R-FLA.: They're saying the only way they can win this race is having a floor fight in Tampa in August. And I think that's a recipe to deliver four more years to Barack Obama.

(END VIDEO CLIPS)

WALLACE: Senator, do you feel pressure now to get -- or added pressure to get out of the race and give Mitt Romney a clear shot at Barack Obama?

SANTORUM: No. You know, you should have told Kansas last night when they were down almost 20 points in the first half. You know what? It's almost over and you guys should pack it in.

Look, I mean, this race is not even at half time. We haven't even selected half the delegates yet. Governor Romney is not halfway to the magic number and, you know, we look at the calendar ahead, and we feel very, very good about where we are going.

And, you know, we -- four years ago, everyone said, oh, we got to wrap this thing up and we did, and John McCain was the nominee and Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton went in the summer and pounded it out.

And guess what? They came up with the best candidate and we came up with someone who -- well, just simply wasn't able to win. We don't need to repeat that again. We don't need to bail out and not have the best candidate to take Barack Obama on the fall.

And when you look at huge advantages, this man has been running for passport for six years. He has all of the establishment behind him. He has 10-1 money advantage. He has the media singing what -- I mean, every question I get is when are you getting out?

I mean, the whole narrative has been in Romney's favor from the beginning of this race and he still isn't even close to closing the deal.

That should send a signal to these people inside the Washington bubble, the senators and congressmen and party leaders, inside the Washington bubble, that maybe something is going on across the country when over 60 percent of the people even hearing all of this still think, yes, Rick Santorum should stay in the race. We need a conservative. We need someone who can be a contrast with Barack Obama, not the same old tired establishment person that's going to be shoved down our throat.

WALLACE: Let me look at this in other way. You talked about four years ago. I want to talk on the Republican side. Mike Huckabee decided to stay in the race until John McCain had it wrapped up, had half of -- you know, the delegates enough to clinch the nomination. But Huckabee campaigned for himself, not against McCain.

You on the other hand are still out there pounding Romney. Do you worry at all and I certainly understand the point you make. He hasn't wrapped up the nomination, Romney hasn't. But do you worry at all about hurting him in case he ends up being the candidate who faces Barack Obama?

SANTORUM: Well, let me show that Barack Obama is going to pound Romney or who ever the Republican nominee a lot more than I am. I'm focused on the issues. I haven't been criticizing Governor Romney personally or any other way. I'm focused on who is the best person to make the case in the general election and win and get the mandate to govern. That's what --

WALLACE: But, wait, wait. I mean, you are talking about him as an Etch-a-Sketch candidate. You talked about him about not being a real conservative. I mean, you're certainly criticizing his credentials?

SANTORUM: Well, I would just say this. I am criticizing his policies and the policies that would best juxtaposed against Barack Obama, as opposed to -- let's just be honest here about who is running the negative campaign. Governor Romney has spent tens of millions of dollars running negative ads about specious issues, taking things I said completely out of the context, try to convince the voters of Wisconsin -- believe this one, Chris -- that I'm not pro life? I mean, these are kinds of ridiculous campaign tactics that Romney campaign is taking on.

And, you know, we are focused on the big issues and energy, and health care. We're talking about national security. I just gave a speech at Jelly Belly jelly bean factory talking about national security and the Reagan legacy and who's best prepared to do so.

You know, we run a very substantive campaign because we believe that that's what's going to win in the general election. Governor Romney has run negative, negative, negative. He hasn't painted a positive vision for this country. He hasn't been able to close the deal with the conservatives, much less anybody else in this party. And that's not going to be an effective tool for us to win this general election.

WALLACE: All right. Let's talk about an issue and I think you would agree the big issue in Wisconsin right now is not the presidential race. It's the recall campaign against Scott Walker, the governor, because of his effort to remove some collective bargaining rights from the state workers.

The Romney campaign -- and you can say it's negative -- but they point out that as a senator you voted against a national right to work law, to allow people to get jobs without joining a union and you repeatedly supported the Davis Bacon Act that requires government contractor to pay the prevailing wage. They say -- and, in fact, it's the case on both of those issues, you sided with big labor.

SANTORUM: Right. In my 16-year career of representing two of the heaviest labor districts in the country and a state of Pennsylvania, which is a heavy labor district, my voting record with labor was 13 percent. I did -- along with almost 70 other senators -- vote to have a federal change in the right to work statute because I represented Pennsylvania which was not a right to work state. But, Governor Romney well knows when I announced I was running for president, I said I would sign a national right to work. I talk about it in the debate. He seems to ignore that fact, that, you know, now I was running for president. I'm not representing the state anymore, who had the interest in keeping the laws the way it was, that I was representing what I thought was best for the country and that's why I'm taking that position.

The head of the AFL-CIO in Pennsylvania said that calling Rick Santorum a friend of big labor is like calling Romney a conservative. Neither are true. They spent literally millions of dollars to beat me in 2000 and 2006 and even before that.

So, I assure you that you have someone who supports Governor Walker, supported from the very beginning what he was doing with the public employee unions, that I think is a completely unfair bargaining position that they have in negotiating the wages and benefits. And you will find someone who is very strong in making sure that people have freedom in this country, to contract with their employers instead of having to go through a union.

WALLACE: Let me -- because I'm not quite sure I understand this. You are saying because you were the senator from Pennsylvania and Pennsylvania had a right to work law, you weren't going to vote --  Print  Email  Share    Recommend Tweet

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We'll talk with the candidate about his chances in Tuesday's important primaries and growing pressure on him to drop out. Presidential candidate Rick Santorum, live, only on "Fox News Sunday."

Then, a preview of what an Obama/Romney campaign might sound like. Two party leaders debate the issues in the election, from health care to rising gas prices. Former Republican chair and governor, Haley Barbour, and former Democratic Party chair and governor, Howard Dean.

Plus, the Trayvon Martin case and racism in America. We'll ask our Sunday panel if there's been a rush to judgment.

And our Power Player of the Week -- saving lives in and out of the operating room.

All right now on "Fox News Sunday."

(MUSIC)

WALLACE: And hello again from Fox News in Washington.

Well, after a week off, Republican voters return to the polls Tuesday for three more primaries. Joining us from Brookville, Wisconsin, is the candidate who needs to persuade voters and GOP leaders this race is not over yet, Senator Rick Santorum.

Welcome back to "Fox News Sunday."

RICK SANTORUM, REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Well, thank you, Chris. Good to be with you this morning.

WALLACE: This week, I don't have to tell you -- two of the conservative young guns in the party, Paul Ryan and Marco Rubio, endorsed Mitt Romney and suggested that you and the others should get out of the race.

Take a look at what they had to say.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS)

REP. PAUL RYAN, CHAIRMAN, BUDGET COMMITTEE: I think it's important that we just coalesce as conservatives and focus on defeating the president in the fall.

SEN. MARCO RUBIO, R-FLA.: They're saying the only way they can win this race is having a floor fight in Tampa in August. And I think that's a recipe to deliver four more years to Barack Obama.

(END VIDEO CLIPS)

WALLACE: Senator, do you feel pressure now to get -- or added pressure to get out of the race and give Mitt Romney a clear shot at Barack Obama?

SANTORUM: No. You know, you should have told Kansas last night when they were down almost 20 points in the first half. You know what? It's almost over and you guys should pack it in.

Look, I mean, this race is not even at half time. We haven't even selected half the delegates yet. Governor Romney is not halfway to the magic number and, you know, we look at the calendar ahead, and we feel very, very good about where we are going.

And, you know, we -- four years ago, everyone said, oh, we got to wrap this thing up and we did, and John McCain was the nominee and Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton went in the summer and pounded it out.

And guess what? They came up with the best candidate and we came up with someone who -- well, just simply wasn't able to win. We don't need to repeat that again. We don't need to bail out and not have the best candidate to take Barack Obama on the fall.

And when you look at huge advantages, this man has been running for passport for six years. He has all of the establishment behind him. He has 10-1 money advantage. He has the media singing what -- I mean, every question I get is when are you getting out?

I mean, the whole narrative has been in Romney's favor from the beginning of this race and he still isn't even close to closing the deal.

That should send a signal to these people inside the Washington bubble, the senators and congressmen and party leaders, inside the Washington bubble, that maybe something is going on across the country when over 60 percent of the people even hearing all of this still think, yes, Rick Santorum should stay in the race. We need a conservative. We need someone who can be a contrast with Barack Obama, not the same old tired establishment person that's going to be shoved down our throat.

WALLACE: Let me look at this in other way. You talked about four years ago. I want to talk on the Republican side. Mike Huckabee decided to stay in the race until John McCain had it wrapped up, had half of -- you know, the delegates enough to clinch the nomination. But Huckabee campaigned for himself, not against McCain.

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