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December 04, 2008

Geraldine Ferraro on the Holder Nomination

Hannity & Colmes

HANNITY: Monday, President-elect Barack Obama nominated Eric Holder for the position of attorney general. Today "Politico" is reporting that some conservatives view this appointment as, quote, "a chance to make their Democratic colleagues squirm."

Holder was involved in the controversial pardon of Marc Rich, a decision which was blasted by Republicans and Democrats alike. "Politico" names a number of Democrats including Senator Chuck Schumer who criticized the decision back in 2000.

So what can we expect during the nomination hearings?

Joining us former vice-presidential candidate, Geraldine Ferraro.

All right, look, the position of attorney general is an important position.

GERALDINE FERRARO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Right.

HANNITY: Maybe we can find some area of agreement. I'm going to try.

FERRARO: Right.

HANNITY: All right. As it relates to Marc Rich.

FERRARO: Go ahead.

HANNITY: The guy renounced his citizenship, selling arms to Iran while they were holding our hostages. Millions of dollars in scandal. The FALN pardon, terrorists, we have tape of them building bombs. Weather Underground members, we have -- we know, of course, their history.

Would you agree with me.

FERRARO: Are you accusing Marc Rich of all of these things?

HANNITY: No, no, Eric Holder was involved.

(LAUGHTER)

FERRARO: I was wondering.

HANNITY: No, no. Eric Holder was involved. So my question is, would you agree with me that we should at least have access to every bit of paper and information of Eric Holder's involvement?

FERRARO: I'm sure the Senate will have all of that.

HANNITY: Not necessarily.

FERRARO: All they have to do is ask for it. I mean, you know, the thing about it -- or ask him questions. He's going to be under oath when he comes to testify.

HANNITY: Yes.

FERRARO: The thing about is, you think that this is a very serious job, and these are serious senators who are facing economic problems. We're facing all kinds of situations.

HANNITY: Yes.

FERRARO: The situation in Mumbai, we're worried that the -- and we have Republicans saying this will make Democrats squirm?

HANNITY: Let me.

FERRARO: I (INAUDIBLE)

HANNITY: Can I explain why? I think it's important.

FERRARO: Don't they have anything better to do with their time?

HANNITY: I'll tell you why I think it's important.

FERRARO: Tell me.

HANNITY: You tell me why I'm nuts.

FERRARO: Go ahead.

HANNITY: All right? I think it's about judgment. If you're going to -- somebody who's selling arms to our enemies while they're holding American hostages, and you're involved in his pardon or terrorists on tape building bombs, the terrorist group, the FALN or the Weather Underground, or supporting sticking a gun in a little boy's face and extracting him from his home, and Elian Gonzalez, I want to know more about your judgment if you're going to have that job as attorney general.

FERRARO: Well, let me just say, first of all, he wasn't the attorney general. He was the deputy attorney general. And one of the things that he did was.

HANNITY: But he supported all of these things.

FERRARO: Some of these things he looked at. It was the Marc Rich issue.

HANNITY: Right.

FERRARO: . that he is being called on, not on any of these others so there are other people.

HANNITY: No. It is true.

FERRARO: . who also got pardons. I mean whether or not he was personally involved in it, I don't know.

HANNITY: He was.

FERRARO: But -- thank you so much for informing me tonight.

(LAUGHTER)

FERRARO: But let me just say to you that the issue that they're concerned about is the Marc Rich issue, and the issue is, you know, if you take a look at -- you know Marc Rich should not have taken off. He should have faced the music here.

HANNITY: All right.

FERRARO: The problem is, the problem is.

HANNITY: I support the president's right to pardon. It is.

FERRARO: Absolutely.

HANNITY: But the question is the judgment in these cases.

All right. But let me ask you this question.

FERRARO: (INAUDIBLE) judgment, it comes out of a deputy attorney general.

HANNITY: Here's my questions.

FERRARO: He looks at it and says this is a terrible, terrible thing. The guy.

HANNITY: All right.

FERRARO: Remember, it's taxes that this guy was up for.

HANNITY: Let me ask you this question. You know, you mentioned the economy. And Republicans could focus on the economy.

FERRARO: Right.

HANNITY: Let me -- because I watched these hearings today, and you know what, there's a recession, there's an economic slow-down. All right?

FERRARO: You're absolutely right.

HANNITY: A lot of people are struggling. All right. And I think the worst thing we can do is raise taxes.

But let me ask you, shouldn't Congress also be held to the standard that they're trying to hold corporations to? Why doesn't Nancy Pelosi -- she's the -- you know, why does she get a jet and Newt Gingrich didn't have a jet?

Why does, you know, Harry Reid -- they build a facility for visitors, they said it would be $71 million, it was $621 million. Should we hold them accountable when they bankrupt Social Security and these things?

FERRARO: You know what? You know I love you, Sean.

HANNITY: Yes, Mr. Hannity, go ahead.

FERRARO: But you know.

HANNITY: I love you.

COLMES: You don't have to love him. It's alright.

(LAUGHTER)

FERRARO: But (INAUDIBLE) is you go so far off the wall.

COLMES: You know it's amazing.

FERRARO: The thing about it is first of all.

HANNITY: Why answer the question?

FERRARO: There's a real difference between when Newt.

HANNITY: Why should she have a jet?

COLMES: Hold on, we only have a second here.

FERRARO: Wait, wait, wait. There's a difference, too, when Newt Gingrich was in the House, when I was in the House. We weren't facing all these security issues, there wasn't anything such as homeland security. The woman is speaker of the House.

HANNITY: I get on jet.

(CROSSTALK)

COLMES: Hold on.

FERRARO: That's OK.

(CROSSTALK)

HANNITY: It's OK for me. Thanks a lot.

FERRARO: Number three, she's number three in line for the presidency of this country.

COLMES: Gerry, we're a little out of time. We're short of time.

FERRARO: Go ahead. You're on.

COLMES: They only -- the fact is, they want to blame Democrats for everything.

FERRARO: Everything.

COLMES: They -- if they had privatized Social Security as they wanted to, what shape would these people be in.

FERRARO: Oh please.

COLMES: . any American citizen will be in.

HANNITY: That's not what they want.

COLMES: Excuse me, I'm talking to Miss Ferraro.

HANNITY: That's not what they want.

FERRARO: Absolutely.

COLMES: Excuse me.

FERRARO: Yes, that is.

COLMES: What shape would people be in now.

FERRARO: Terrible. Terrible.

COLMES: . if they had done what they wanted to do with Social Security?

FERRARO: And one of the things that we had always talked about is you're stuck with -- you know what's going on in the stock market. Do you know how many of my friends have their 401k's involved and stuff.

Do you know how many times I get on the call, Geri, I no longer have a 401k. I now have a 201.

COLMES: Right. If they had they their way.

FERRARO: They're in tears.

COLMES: . people would be jumping out of windows right now.

FERRARO: You better believe it. And you want to know something? A lot of women who are on Social Security and Social Security alone would not be jumping out of windows, so they'd be sitting there and saying what do I do now?

COLMES: Yes. Exactly.

FERRARO: Because there would be no money.

COLMES: Eric Holder -- he was, as you point out, deputy attorney general.

FERRARO: Right.

COLMES: He was not Janet Reno.

FERRARO: No.

COLMES: In fact -- he was also not the person.

FERRARO: And he wasn't Gonzales.

COLMES: He's also.

FERRARO: He isn't going after people politically because they were Democrats.

COLMES: By the way, what they did in this Justice Department.

FERRARO: That's exactly right.

COLMES: . is that they -- they actually fired a bunch of attorney generals.

FERRARO: Right.

COLMES: I mean in various states, a bunch of judges, rather.

FERRARO: Right. That's Gonzales.

COLMES: And they also put -- the inspector general, the Justice Department, Bush's Justice Department, its own inspector general, determined these were politically motivated.

FERRARO: Right. Right.

COLMES: And yet the same people who want to go after Eric Holder are not at all upset about the malfeasance in the current Justice Department.

FERRARO: Well, and the thing about it is with Eric Holder no one is ever saying for one minute that this was what shaped his entire time when he was a deputy attorney general.

COLMES: Right.

FERRARO: Or that would shape his views when he becomes attorney general of this country. They've all said we're just going to make Democrats squirm.

COLMES: Right.

FERRARO: This is a political thing they're going after. Has nothing to do with his qualifications.

COLMES: They're the ones who are playing politics with the current Justice Department

FERRARO: All of them are saying he's eminently qualified to be attorney general.

COLMES: And by the way, Orrin Hatch supports him, of all people.

FERRARO: I know. I've seen that which is just absolutely marvelous.

COLMES: All right. Thank you very much. Great to see you.

FERRARO: Thank you.

COLMES: Thanks for being here.

FERRARO: Good seeing you.

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